dealing with these types of complex issues, because i don't think they'll all get resolved. that means whether it's an insider, like a jack lew. >> would he be good enough? >> it's not my call. guys like irskin, there are people who have dealt on a regular basis with the congress, given the complexity of these issues, that would be a more logical call. >> thank you for joining us. appreciate it. i will send it back to the studio. >> thanks, andrew. don't be a stranger, steve. would you tell him that, andrew, for me, please? >> he will come on all the time. >> hopefully i don't look too strange, joe. >> no, i don't mean you lo look -- new jersey's not that far. i don't know what you've got against jersey, but, you know, we have a seat here for you. >> thank you very much.